Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:00:00 UT

Finnish, World's Most Amazing Language
älä rääkkääkkään means don't torture.
älkää rääkätkääkökkään is the plural form.
riiuuyöaieoioin has only two vowels, one on each end, and means "the instrument used to correct the plans for a wedding night."
Thanks to Tuomo Valkonen, Einar Karttunen, and Ville Hakulinen for the entertaining discussion on #haskell-blah.
Somdays I wonder which programming languages is closest to Finnish. Or even better, what would programming languages look like now if the whole programming thing started in Finland?
Stefan Holdermans responded that he has felt the same vague inexplicable unhappiness over discarded disc cases and papers. He suggested an explanation...
<dblhelix> shapr: maybe it's about decoration... discs look pretty invaluable... putting them in a box with a nice shiny paper gives them a more valuable look... and then what they look like better resembles the value they represent to one...
<shapr> dblhelix: I've thought the same thing...
<shapr> dblhelix: And it leads to an amusing conclusion, maybe discs aren't valuable, and the music industry is all marketing and fertilizer?
<shapr> Certainly I'd rather the artist themself got all the money I pay for a disc. I'd be happy to skip the packaging, advertising, cross marketing, and even the disc itself. I'd much rather shuttle five euro to the artist and just get FLACs.
<dblhelix> shapr: maybe we *wanted* it to lead us to *that* conclusion ;)
<shapr> dblhelix: Well, let's look at it from the other side...
* shapr tries...
* dblhelix tries too
<shapr> Maybe they should name it the packaging or advertising industry instead of the music industry?
<dblhelix> the artists being the true music industry, you mean?
<shapr> I mean, the music is the value, right? So... anything that takes away from the music decreases consumer demand, right?
<shapr> Paradoxically, marketing increases demand, irrespective of music quality.
<dblhelix> you'd say
<shapr> Ok, I have a prediction...
* dblhelix awaits it...
<shapr> I think that the current music industry is a longer term cultural equivalent of nigerian spam kings.
<eivuokko> Maybe they sell something else than just music. Something on the lines of lifestyle, ideas, feelings...
<dblhelix> eivuokko: which is all just air, right?
<eivuokko> Is it?
<eivuokko> It certainly seems to sell.
* dblhelix wants to keeps his relationships with widows of deceased african presidents low key... they're going to make me very rich, you see
<shapr> I think that the current music industry will be forced to shift its market to the gullible part of the population, those who are too inexperienced or not smart enough to know better.
<dblhelix> eivuokko: so, basically, air sells... well, the sport shoes industrie know that for a long time now

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